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Sony XAVC S Round Trip Issue Workaround with Premiere Pro CC to DaVinci Resolve

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DaVinci Resolve Round Tripping with XAVC S not working right

I’m getting comfortable using DaVinci Resolve 12 for the most part. Color Grading is just the best and the editing portion is pretty good too but I still have to use Premiere Pro CC 2015. I’ve been using the new Sony A7s II and a7r II lately I wanted to test how well XML round tripping works. This workflow is very solid in DaVinci Resolve so I had my doubts it wouldn’t work flawlessly, but with the XAVC S codec from the new Sony alpha cameras (namely the a7s II and a7r II) I did find an issue.

Log with issues

The issue is DaVinci Resolve doesn’t recognize the timecode from the XAVC S codec info inside the XML that I exported from Premiere Pro. I don’t know if this issue is a Premiere Pro CC 2015 problem or a XAVC S issue when exporting the XML.

Log tight shot

In the log you see a constant issue and it’s a timecode mismatch that is going on. Resolve is looking for the actual clip timecode but the XML has it wrong. I’m not that technical so lets move on to the fix 😀

MP4 Timecode copy

In the clip above the MP4 timecode starts at 00:00:00:00 and has the in point at 00:00:20:09.

The good thing is it’s an easy fix. You need to rewrap the .MP4 clips to .MOV with a program called EditReady or ClipWrap. They both come from the same company Divergent Media and cost the same. I recommend getting EditReady because it also does transcoding with renaming features.

EditReady Program

EditReady Settings

The process is very simple and straight forward. I like that! Just drop the files in and choose Rewrap.

MOV Timecode copy

Here is the MOV re-wrapped clip and it has the right timecode. In point set at 03:47:10:21

The XML isn’t getting this right either and makes it impossible to get the media into Resolve with round tripping. You can edit the .MP4 files if you import them direct into Resolve.

Resolve All fixed

After rewrapping the files I repeated the process of creating the XML and importing it into Resolve. Worked perfect with no errors. Nice right?

Thats it I hope this helps you if you are wanting to round trip with XAVC S and DaVinci Resolve. In some ways it might be best to transcode instead since these MP4 files are harder on the computer and Resolve is going to render them anyway.

Happy editing!

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Erik Naso
Erik Nasohttp://eriknaso.com
I'm a broadcast DP In San Diego. I enjoy sharing what I'm working on and testing new equipment. This blog is also part of giving back. I've learned so much from so many people.
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12 COMMENTS

  1. I’ve been using the Render & Replace feature in Premiere for those XAVC S files, works like a charm! Good post, would have avoided a lot of frustration months ago. Thanks!

  2. Hey Erik,

    Things are looking good here in Resolve 12! Glad to see I’m not the only one learning this platform. Thought you might be interested in knowing Dion Scoppettuolo, author of an upcoming DaVinci Resolve 12 editing book, is having a week long webinar starting Monday, Nov. 9th on the Moviola website. I know the first day is free, and it would appear the rest of it is free as well, although I may be wrong about that. anyway, something to consider!

    Steve M

  3. Hey Erik,

    I just came across a different workflow I found from Casey Faris, which involves exporting your final timeline from Premiere and also exporting an EDL. Once in resolve, import your timeline, import the EDL and bingo your cuts are all in place. This workflow solved 2 big issues as an A7RII user: no more need to render and replace XAVC S files and any cropping done to my 4k clips (working on 1080p timeline) is carried over to Resolve!

    Just thought I’d share the knowledge to anyone who hasn’t see Casey’s workflow. http://www.4kshooters.net/2015/12/03/an-extremely-powerful-and-efficient-technique-to-bring-a-premiere-pro-sequence-into-resolve-12/

  4. Maaan, I dunno about that method.

    The ability to use local and remote versions in Resolve goes out the window with this approach. I’ve done this before (albeit through a different methodology) you just run the risk of losing a lot of Resolves management features.

    I use remote versions All. The. Time.

    Clients & Changes –> Death & Taxes

  5. Hey Eric,
    Thanks for this. I ran it this issue last week. And actually openeda ticket with Davinci and they suggested changing the confirm settings. Needless to say i still didnt get it work and im so happy that i found this article. I will now use the replace and render feature as Martin suggested.
    Thanks!

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